was not alive, it was not a political union. >>neil: given the trend and how they hand out the awards the common theme seems to be bash america, sort of like sally field accepting it for, i don't know, jane fonda, his theme has been europe is in the pickle because of the united states, but this is a prevailing view that the european union is facing their problems because of the united states. they cannot be serious. >>guest: no, i quite agree and basically, norway, which gives the thing, it is very political, norway is not even in the european union but they are next door to this whole number which is a growing totalitarian state. it failed to give peace over kosovo and it has given its people massive borrowing and not they have over borrowed and the recommendation is alwaysst either and now you have rioting and forces for secession to break up the european union. it is a massive totalitarian state, grabbing power, and it gives its parliament elections but in power, and it does not like disagreement and it is against opposition,